Sunday, June 17, 2012

audio conversation with Robert Stanley

 
 Robert Stanley

I feel crummy admitting this, but haven’t read either of Robert’s books. That said, I have listened to a lot of his audio interviews. I feel like I had a pretty good insight into key episodes of his life, and I really wanted to hear more because I thought he had a lot to offer. Our conversation strays well beyond the boundaries of just UFOs in the skies and alien entities in our lives. There is something far more complex going on; there is an overall richness to this phenomenon that gives me hope.

two hours / 31 minutes

Near the end we both reflect on the intensity and the deeper meanings hidden within these experiences. You start out talking about UFOs and you end up wresting with the meaning of existence. Here is an tiny excerpt of what we said.
Mike: I feel like I can’t fully live to match my identity.
Robert: That’s a sin Mike. In my opinion, that really is a sin.
That little back-and-forth might seem hasrsh, but it was no such thing, it was profoundly hopeful. I repeatedly say that these audio interviews are selfish, they are therapy, and this conversation culminates with Robert playing the role of therapist.

Formerly a corporate journalist, Robert is currently the editor of UNICUS magazine.

He is the author of two books on the UFO phenomenon; CLOSE ENCOUNTERS ON CAPITOL HILL (2006) and COVERT ENCOUNTERS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. (2011).

Together these two book total up to over 800 pages and they paint a very clear picture that Washington, D.C. is an unrivaled UFO hot-spot. Robert’s tireless investigation led him to dig deep and uncover the amazing covert history of UFOs and ETs in Washington, D.C. The research shows an unprecedented increase UFO activity from the years 2000 to 2010.

Robert is also the host of a weekly audio interview series, The UNICUS Radio Hour. (More audio HERE).

There are two audio interviews I need to recommend. The first is a conversation between Robert and his friend Jerry Wills. I reference both this interview and Jerry during the podcast (linked HERE).

The other recommended interview is with James Horak and it is part of Robert’s UNICUS Radio Hour (linked HERE).

The UNICUS site has a rich collection of UFO photographs, and some are extremely compelling (linked HERE and HERE)

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12 comments:

Brizdaz (Darren) said...

Very good talk,Mike.
I've never heard of Robert Stanley before,and when I saw the two books of his displayed I nearly didn't bother to listen to this marathon talk.But I'm glad I did.
I agree with him about Rome never dying,they just keep morphing and pretending that Rome died long ago.
To me
Rome=
Illuminati=
The Roman Catholic Church =
Washington D.C.=
Freemasonry (Scottish Rite)=
CIA=
Microsoft
(XP is a giveaway,as it is the
Chi Ro of Rome).
That's why I had to laugh in the Dan Brown movie
"Angels and Demons" where the Vatican were under attack from themselves:-)
But they don't have it all their own way either,and they know it.
The Templars have never really died either,since they got kicked out of Europe...officially,that is.
And I'm not saying that they are angels either,but they do make good opposition for the Illuminati.
Templar's =
British Empire=
Israel (government)=
Freemasonry (British)=
MI5/6=
Pirates=
Google/Apple.
But the waters have gotten murky as two have tried becoming "friends" to form their NWO.
World War II was the last big battle between these two for control of the world
(in my opinion).
And don't get me wrong they are both just as evil as each other...but there is a baby somewhere in all that bathwater.
In other words there is a lot of good in many of those institutions...but there is also a lot of bad.
The trick is to stay away from the bad,and work for the good.
And that's where intuition and synchronicity come into play,because there is just as much good as there is bad in all the above institutions,you just have to follow your gut.
There are a lot of good people involved in all the above institutions it's just a matter of weeding out the bad...and that's the hard part.

Tim Brosnan said...

I just want to say what a distinct pleasure it is to hear two people discuss such topics as these so calmly, respectfully, intelligently and articulately. You're making the world a better place, Mike. Thank you.

Bright Garlick said...

Hi Mike - great interview and you held your end very well. I totally disagree with Robert's view of the ET presence - he's believing what certain groups want people to believe - bad aliens ! 1 planet among trillions - controlled by dark forces - just plain naive and stupid !!! If people knew how aliens are really connected with government, they would have a totally different attitude.

All these folks who see only the negative - don't see humanity as it really is. They ought to Demonify humans, not aliens ! That is our projection !!!

Sorry Mike - people with myopic views about bad aliens, rub me up the wrong way ! A lot of what Robert said is reasonable but all the negative stuff about aliens and the dark side is just dork dumb ! Human secrecy and projection is the problem.

I hope you are healing ok Mike - it's been a tough couple of weeks for you.

Cheers, Bright.

Bright Garlick said...

Incidently Lucifer is linked to Lucan - both relate to the light bearer - a historical character from the middle east. Lucan is related to an ancient form of magic. There may well be an alien link as some of these practitioners have alien contacts. But it has nothing to do with the dark side. Perhaps the church originaly gave Lucifer a bad rap post Roman Empire to conceal our ET origins.

Mike Clelland! said...

Bright Garlick - I am not kidding when I say that I am totally agnostic about what might be going on behind this grand curtain.

I have no idea what is really happening.

I say this a lot --- I listen to peoples conclusions, but I listen MUCH MORE CLOSELY to peoples experiences.

I find Robert's story so compelling less for his conclusions, and more for the intensely dramatic set of personal experiences. And not just his, the others involved in this story too. To me, the involvement of so many experiencers tells me that *something* is going on.

Whatever is going on - I am cautious to anthropomorphize the source. It might be dark ETs controlling the political process, or it might be a mythology playing out with theatrics so vivid that we mistake them for reality.

I don't have the answer. But I do find this journey fascinating - and at the same time - there is a feeling of urgency.

peace,
Mike C!

Bright Garlick said...

Hey Mike - sorry if I sounded hostile - that wasn't my intention. I just get frustrated with the mounting wall of bias against ET's and the division between good and bad ET's.

You do what you do very well and I didn't mean to sound like I was criticizing you !

Your're right - the journey is fascinating and I too feel the same urgency. I would like to speak more about what I know - but it's the humans of the lower arms of TPTB that stop me doing so and the ET demonizers.

Keep up the great work Mike !

Lord Jim said...

Had to force myself to listen to this one all the way through. What a load of nonsense!

Thardiust said...

This is my first comment here but, I agree with what Brizdaz said and would add that we should learn better ways of rooting out bad habits in every institution we come across as well as any within ourselves.

Red Pill Junkie said...

Very interesting.

This idea of the Roman empire never dying and merely morphing sounds exactly like the kind of things that drove Philip K. Dick to the edge of insanity —just a little cautionary note there?

Are politicians susceptible to demonic possession once they enter the Washington scene? I myself ascribe it to something much more simple: Greed + Unaccountability —same way Anonymity turns many otherwise decent folks into total fuckwads on the Web :P

Oh, and the Matrix Reloaded scene when the Architect reveals to Neo the history of previous Matrix versions? He never says that in the original version people were told the truth about why they were there. It goes back to the original movie when Agent Smith confesses to Morpheus that the 1st Matrix was designed to be the perfect human world, and that's why people instinctively rejected the program. We define reality in terms of suffering.

But I don't want to leave the impression that I'm totally against what Stanley said. There were many valuable things during the discussion. Specially in the final part.

PS: That episode when you almost fainted? In his last podcast Micah Hanks told how when he was on a conference in California he was suffering from a terrible migraine, which was something unusual for him. What's more, there were other people suffering from migraines too —might be interesting to check the dates between the two events. Just sayin'... ;)

Oh, and he says he also saw a UFO when his plane was flying over Colorado! :)

Brizdaz (Darren) said...

@RPJ
"This idea of the Roman empire never dying and merely morphing sounds exactly like the kind of things that drove Philip K. Dick to the edge of insanity —just a little cautionary note there?"

I hope you're not implying that I'm a Dick ?-)

Red Pill Junkie said...

Well, I dunno Darren.

Do you dream with electric sheep? :P

Brizdaz (Darren) said...

@RPJ
Re:
"Do you dream with electric sheep?"

No.
I'm from Australia,
not New Zealand.-)