audio conversation with Kim Carlsberg

During our conversation, Kim says, “When you are opened up, you are opened to everything." That simple statement says a lot.

This was decidedly NOT an interview, instead it was a perfectly enjoyable conversation, seemingly without any framework or direction. But, I feel like we covered more ideas more deeply than we ever could have in a standard interview format. Plus a curious synchro-weirdness sneaks into our conversation at the 1:11:11 time count (more below on that).

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1 hour and 55 minutes of audio

Kim is the author of Beyond My Wildest Dreams, with illustrations by Darryl Anka. This book details her life experiences in a diary format with the UFO abduction phenomenon.

She is also the editor of a recent published book titled The Art of Close Encounters which features illustrations and first hand experiences by UFO contactees, along with artwork that depicts their memories.

Kim has been busy doing a lot of interviews lately, I feel like she allowed herself to dig a little deeper on this podcast. I am profoundly honored that she shared a wider breadth of her experiences with me. I’ll add that I shared a lot too.

This interview seems to focus a lot on channeling, a topic that fascinates me. I know that plenty of folks will dismiss this topic with outright contempt, but I feel that it’s important. I’ll also add that there is still that little kid in me, and if everybody says to ignore channeling, I wanna look at it even more deeply.

I will occasionally make reference to late night cable TV documentaries on the abduction experience, and how these can’t truly tell a story with any depth. Well, Kim has been a part of exactly these (somewhat cheesy) documentaries. And here’s an example, and it’s interesting. The production is sort of overly sensationalized, with the moody lighting and scary music. But the actual content of what the abductees say, and how it is explained by the narrator seems pretty even keeled. The info is quite solid; if "Joe Normal" was to watch this, he would be presented with an accurate but simplistic foundation of the abduction phenomenon.

The clip below is from some point in the early 90's. It features Kim (as always) speaking her truth to the world.

Myself and Kim at the 2011 OpenMinds conference in Arizona.

But - there is a lot more going on under the surface. Perhaps the documentary format will never be able to properly depict the complexity and depth of these experiences.

Also: There is a weird synchronicity, caught during the recoding, where we both greet our pal Phil out loud and simultaneously.

television documentary from the late 1990s

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Addendum:

The one question that I regrettably did NOT ask was, what is David Hasselhoff REALLY like?

Ubber thespian Mr. Hasselhoff reading Budd Hopkins' MISSING TIME during a quiet moment on the set of Bay Watch. Photo by Kim Carlsberg.

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Synchro-grooviness:

There was a VERY odd coincidence during the recording involving both of us shouting "Phil?" at the pretty much the same moment. When we realize what happened, we both laugh. Our laughter happens at the 1:11:11 time count.

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And more tiny oddities:

See the image below, this is a screen image with yellow highlighting added by me. This was on my screen this morning, and I realized that there were two references to 1:11:11 and each was a different context, a date and a time-count. These were just a few inches apart, and the synchro-weirdness made me take note. This is a tiny thing, but it is a clue none the less.

Image from this blog, about synchronicities, with synchronicities.

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